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#21 joonian

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 01:41 PM

Well, the 147 was introduced in 2000, so it uses very different technology from the Mito and Giulietta. As someone whose family has owned the original Alfasud and the 166, I know plenty about the overheating and other reliability horror stories. But the new Alfas don't seem to exhibit any of those problems.

By contrast, new VAG cars seem to be plagued with electrical problems and build quality issues of all types. The DSG in particularly seems to be fraught with issues. I know this anecdotally from friends who are owners and from browsing various VAG forums (I was interested in a manual GTI or Scirocco at one point... but the price and dull interior finally turned me off).

That was the point I was making.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 11:10 PM

YES!

http://blogs.wsj.com...n-new-roadster/

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 05:26 PM

the insides of a beemer :P

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:12 PM

Joonian that is a spectacular looking car. Makes me want to trade in my Mazda for one so badly.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:43 PM

I highly recommend it. It's not that much more expensive. Actually, go for the Giulietta if you can swing it. The cabin is nicer than some very nice hotel rooms I've been in.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:04 PM

Maybe in another 12 months. We'll see just how well these new Alfa's hold up. Good thing about them is that they seem to depreciate fairly quickly due to the market's perception of their reliability (not so good for the original owner).

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:08 PM

I bought mine used. Have a look at Alfaowner.co.uk to get a feel for the issues. You may have issues with the TCT, I'm not sure, but I always get manual shifters, so that reduces the risk by a large amount. The engines are generally rock solid.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:09 PM

On the other hand the Mazda 3 MPS is alright too. Maybe swap out some of the aero parts for the regular 3's parts to reduce the vulgarness.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:08 PM

The only cars that don't depreciate badly is Benz and Honda. At one point of time was contemplating Saab 9-3 aero, but the goddamn was worth nothing second hand.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 02:36 AM

E36 320i - 240k mileage and still going strong. Such CBU BMWs are tough to come by these days.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 12:01 PM

That's why I buy second hand.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:57 PM

Pininfarina is dead. He was 85.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:10 PM

I have always preferred Bertone's work to be honest. But Pininfarina did push the envelope.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

Didn't Pininfarina's son die of a scooter accident a few years back? I admire Giugiaro a great deal, he managed to remain very relevant across so many decades when car design underwent such enormous changes.

Here's that vid again, I've posted this many times (incredible suit):


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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:32 PM

Ian Callum is another designer I admire


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:21 PM

For me was Gordon Murray when he designed the Mclaren F1, to me the best super car ever built

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:51 PM

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:12 PM

Where do the license plates go?

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#39 Zinzan

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:38 PM

I guess its either you love it or hate it, i belong to the second category.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:44 PM

Do not know where to put this:

http://smh.drive.com...0827-24vjp.html

Any similar offerings in KL?




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