kotmj Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I've been cursorily glancing at the discussion about shoe antiquing and thought I'd make my opinion on it known. After all, that's the purpose of a forum. I think what antiquing can do to a shoe is to create visual contrast that heightens the perception of sinuosity of form. Take for example the professionally detailed, lit and shot 911 above. Much creative work was done to produce the picture; by creative, I mean the work you do to create an intended effect on the observer. It wasn't just somebody drove in a 911 and someone whipped out a DSLR and took the picture. In taking the picture, the team of photographers were aiming to create maximum sinuosity of form in the eyes of the observer. So there were light rods and panels above the car to cast highlights along the high points of the bodywork. And there were shadows intentionally cast into the hollows. This creates maximum visual contrast. The effect was then further exaggerated and refined in Photoshop. In reality, the car is quite flat. What antiquing can do is to paint on artificial shadows on the shoe. That way, the shoe always looks sinuous -- extremely shapely -- regardless of light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 French patina artist https://youtu.be/Atd3VZWRQvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I quite fancy the general direction taken with the leftmost shoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Chong Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I think you have a very cultivated eye Kotmj. Correct me if I am wrong, you want it to be as close as possible to natural patina circa 10 to 15. That's achievable, only pls note I will have to step down significantly from your current tan a darker shade of brown / black. Brouging detailing will also be significantly muted in that case. If you want brouging weathering, I will have to work with shades of light brown only, should I go too darkish on the brown, then it will look contrived and artificial and I lose the el natural effect. You can either go for el natural or brouging highlights, but not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kotmj Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 No, no brouging weathering. The fact it has brogues can be ignored. I do not mind a much darker shoe -- after all, without darkness, there is no light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joonian Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 lol this is awesome. it's like when dexter takes on a Big Bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I am glad that the thread has resumed its less than 5 sentences per comment status. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Passed the shoes today to a person who has more than some faint resemblance to a 15 years older boysdontcry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmm Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Anyone knows where to install flush metal toe taps? I tried asking in LYN before but no one knows. Failing that, alternatively, is the Ikano cobbler to best choice for installing non-flush toe taps? I've read before that they don't actually have the top taps, you have to bring it to them to install. Where do I procure these toe taps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmm Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Anyone? kotmj, I recall you recommended Continental rubber soles for shoes. In what way are these better than Vibram soles? I had Vibram topies done to my Meermins at the Ikano cobbler. The lady boss charged me RM 120 for just the half sole. Seems mighty expensive... Add another RM 120 for rubber heels. Is the Continental cheaper? I just want to make sure I'm not being ripped off I don't like the look of leather soles with rubber topies, but the toe area of my new Carminas are wearing out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 I don't remember the prices I paid, but they are definitely worth it for me. One Continental topy has the equivalent lifespan of ten leather outsoles and 5X the grip on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmm Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 I don't remember the prices I paid, but they are definitely worth it for me. One Continental topy has the equivalent lifespan of ten leather outsoles and 5X the grip on the ground. Huh, after some searching on the LYN forum I came across a post from you that mentions it was RM 55 for the Continental half soles... damn, that's less than half of what the lady charged me for the Vibram half soles! I'll drop by sometime soon to see what the Ikano shop can offer. Anyone else got topys done there before, what's the price you got charged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 RM55 may have been in 2009... when roti canai was 50 sen, GST has not yet been conceived, Najib only deputy PM, the ringgit was not yet as much of a banana currency vs the US dollar and 1MDB was just a gleeful idea in Jho's fat little head. Come to think of it, I need to raise my prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmm Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 More than double the price in 7 years, even with the free falling ringgit, still feels excessive. Oh well. I'll pay them a visit and probably do it anyway, just to avoid a re-sole. The next pair of Carmina I order online will either be Dainite soles or come attached with flush metal toe taps. Anyone with experience with their Tomir sole, which basically looks like a topy on a leather sole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Dr Chong asked me to post this. He's away in the jungle right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"6" Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Noice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 https://flic.kr/p/G9aPTo https://flic.kr/p/GVkDAh Dr Chong asked me to post this. He's away in the jungle right now. I almost don't recognise my old Loakes. They look marvellous. Pls tell Dr Chong when he comes back from wild boar hunting in the jungle that I need some instructions on how to care for the finish on the shoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 How do I put pictures in the posts? I'm hosting the pictures on flicker but the system doesn't recognise the extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"6" Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I use photobucket. Jpegs are normally accepted well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 It needs to have a .jpg extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Picture posted successfully. Thanks. Dr Chong says "My service always includes a tutorial on how to maintain and customize the antiquing. El natural antiquing was a very good selection Jeremy for first time appreciators. This is like the charcoal or Rolex first suit or watch, as it will give you a foundation like the 101 of glacage. Services rendered included full renovation, deep cleansing and moisturizing of leather plus water damage repair. The shoe was bone dry! Patin: el naturale 10-15 years usage Japanese wabi sabi finish (no Italian exaggeration, no special request) (the effect was subtle so might not have shown up well on photo). Finished with light polish of brown vamp and burgundy toecaps. I just applied the brown and burgundy two hours ago. It is always a privilege Jeremy to work with someone who enjoys the finer things in life." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hmmm first time seeing high end shoes cleaned this wash. With water and cleaner. http://cobbler.txt-nifty.com/blog/2015/08/post-82bc.html#more Damn....submerge entirely in water.... http://cobbler.txt-nifty.com/blog/2015/09/post-b0d8.html#more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hi kotmj, can you meet Dr Chong 8pm in Bangsar Village Starbucks (lower floor) tomorrow? it is to return your shoe and to teach you how to upkeep it. Please bring 2 horsehair brushes, a notebook and a pen along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotmj Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hi Yan, thanks for the kind invitation. I'm currently in Perth. Back on the 23rd. Looking forward to meeting with Dr Chong when I'm back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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